No but we can hope that voters get exactly what they voted for. They just didn’t understand or chose to ignore inflation that follows the tariffs and the high unemployment that’s follows mass deportations. Mutual destruction? No. Natural consequences? Yes, please.
The terrifying thing is nothing short of this person doing the things he says he’s going to do over the next four years. That’s the terrifying thing. Not me 😂
That’s a little dramatic don’t you think? People cast votes. Almost half voted for a guy that openly supports a bunch of crazy stuff imo including massive tariffs and mass deportations that both lead to high inflation and unemployment. Truth or lie? Truth. He won based on those promises. Okay. So then why oh why is my wanting to see his voters feel exactly when they voted for a bad thing?
Do you claim you know what everyone voted for, there are a lot of issues and no one gets everything they want. You seem to be projecting your dislike of Trump onto those who voted for him. Many of his policies will benefit our nation as a whole.. I get you are upset but why not wait and see what really happens and how it impacts our country instead of wishing for a bad outcome for fellow Americans.
Call me crazy for thinking that a felon who has assaulted women, taken away womens' rights, cooked his financial books, took high security documents from the white house and lied about it, refused to concede his election loss, incited an insurrection, and regularly punches down, has a worthy character to be president of this nation. As an aside, since when did a PRESIDENT mock and ridicule a state governor in the middle of a natural disaster? President Biden (and every president I can remember), visited, provided aid, and provided support to ANY state experiencing a tragedy, be it a red state or a blue state. Trump works to drive wedges, divide people, and has done away with what used to be the UNITED states.
And in spite of all this, Trump is still POTUS. The American people looked at four years of Trump and four years of Biden and made their decision. How terrible of a platform the Democrat Party clearly had to lose to the Donald Trump you describe?
While Trump can be divisive, Biden and the media contributed so much to the division we have today. The hate people have for Trump has blinded them to reality.
The love of Trump also seems to have a blinding effect. We all need to keep our eyes open and be willing to critique and be honest about our preferred leaders.
So last try for me and then I need to go back to work 😂 Candidate T lays out a bunch of diff things that he says will MAGA. Okay. Yes. I’m going to assume people who voted for him liked what he said. Is that a crazy assumption? Don’t we tend to vote for people we agree with? I can’t imagine voting for someone i don’t agree with? So if that’s true, then what they voted for was a person who promised tariffs that have never not led to higher inflation. Never. Tariffs are inflationary. And mass deportations (now he may back down from this - who knows with this guy) lead to unemployment. Bush and Obama did the same thing back in the day but in certain counties only and then economists went back and looked at what happened over time. What happened was that small businesses lost an important part of their labor pool and had to either contract or close. Not good. We are already a nation very short on labor.
So I assume that T’s voters agree with T’s actions and policies and those policies lead to inflation and unemployment. Don’t shoot the messenger. My hope is that his voters now actually get what they voted for.
I agree with you 100% Jeanne. We just allowed a CONVICTED criminal, an adjudicated sexual abuser of WOMEN to the presidency. No amount of sane-washing this man OR his cabinet picks (save Marco Rubio) will change those facts!. Next they will be arguing that the salute Elon gave was a misunderstanding by us.
Ahhhh - and therein lies the problem. Despite facts and data, you have “beliefs”. And the only way to shake those beliefs out of your head is to show you that they are not grounded in reality. And the only way to show you that they are not grounded in reality is for you to actually live through the truth that’s about to hit you over the next four years. Good luck.
Wow! You underestimate me and the other millions who voted for Trump. I do my homework.. ran a company for many years, I’m not naive. I won’t go into the details of how the Biden Administration failed because - what’s the point? The voters have spoken. I’m truly sorry that this election was so upsetting to you, but you may be pleasantly surprised, if you are willing look beyond your anti-Trump bias. I’m gonna leave it at that.
If you did your homework then nothing I said is a surprise. Right? You know all about tariffs and their impacts. You know about mass deportations and how they’re bad for small businesses. Then you won’t be surprised. You’re prepared.
What if, Trump was simply the better option between the two candidates? I am so thankful right now that Trump won. He has accomplished more this week than has been in the past months, no exaggeration!!
I assure you I look deep. He and Vance are front and center and I’m here for it all. Will I agree with everything? Surely not. However, they are ready to get things moving in the right direction. And, just like a ship being turned, it won’t happen overnight. But from what we’ve seen out of the gate, we are off to a good start. Just as I have for ALL our previous administrations, I will pray for all leading our country that they will use discernment and God’s will to be done.
And the hateful name calling isn’t a good look either… and two wrongs don’t make it right. Seems there are a lot of Trump haters here and projecting their anger on his family and his voters.
My mouth is hanging open. Literally. Donald Trump has called more people names than I am allowed room here to list. I am honestly flummoxed that you would criticize anyone for "hateful name calling" when Trump leads the way. You are mind boggling that you cannot see what is right in front of you.
For the record, I do not condone name calling from anyone. Including Trump, but I’m not in contact with him and doubt he’d care if I was upset by his behavior. I didn’t vote for him because he’s a perfect example of manners and behavior. I voted for him despite that. The reason I made a comment about name calling is because I don’t see the point in calling his wife a “grifter” or anything. She’s not him and shouldn’t be the target of anyone’s ire. Neither should the voters. We are not responsible for any elected officials behavior past, present or future. We may vote for them based on who we think will do a better job for the office. Clearly more voters felt he would, in spite of his many imperfections.. and to be fair, the other candidates had a few themselves. I don’t go for “false equivalency” arguments because wrong is wrong. I feel this group has higher standards than Trump and that name calling doesn’t get us anywhere. I really don’t want to argue about Trump any further. I voted for him for many reasons.. not one issue, not two.. but many reasons. It was my choice and I stand by it. Whether or not he will deliver remains to be seen. But can we just accept that there are different views on this thread? Trump voters are just as welcome (and pay the same) to be here as Trump haters.
So to be clear: you’re holding me to a higher standard than our President? Why? Name calling is okay by our leader, the face of our nation because…you’re “not in contact with him”?
I don’t think so. Consider this: Presidents are role models. Presidents have the power to shape the culture of a country. They are supposed to set the standard, not lower the bar. Presidents have great power, and that requires - no, demands - a higher standard of ethical conduct than little old me calling Melania “a grifter” (after selling meme coin$, bibles and probably Baron next).
Freedom belongs to all of us and I feel grateful for two things: the freedom to vote in free and fair elections and the freedom of speech that allows me to speak out when I see grift and graft and trouble ahead 🇺🇸🇺🇸
We can only control our own behavior. I choose not to call names or bully… I can’t control what you or anyone else - including the president says or does. I can only control myself. We are both free to vote as we wish, say what we wish and think what we wish… I don’t hold anyone to a lower or higher standard than anyone else.. that’s how I live my life. The role model argument is old… no one is obligated to be a role model if they choose not to. Again, their life, their choice. The people have voted and I’m genuinely sorry for anyone who is upset that Trump won… but he did - and that says a lot about the other side. Food for thought.
Nooooooo - you’ve given up on holding the person who holds the highest office in the land to a standard of action and speech that’s better than a New York street bully??? This makes me so sad but it explains things. I haven’t. I believe that power can be used for good. I haven’t given up on that.
Then maybe consider giving him a chance to do good. I don’t give up on anyone.. we are all created by God and we all have potential for good and evil. I think we all have good inside.. I am ready to call this a draw. We aren’t here to change each others mind or judge each other. I wish you well.
Really? All those words I typed out with my fat little fingers and this is where we’ve landed 😂😂😂?
I don’t suffer from TDS (fun fact: he named it that btw because he likes his name on everything 😉). But I’l tell you what I do suffer from - i suffer from loving my neighbor. I suffer from Matthew 25:37. I suffer from wanting to see the least powerful and most persecuted be given helping hands and open hearts. I suffer from believing that right words fuel right thoughts and right deeds and this is why the words that Presidents use really do matter.
This is also why I believe our President must reveal himself to his followers to be the true grifter that he (and Melania) really are which will come with all sorts of hardship for all of us. But the only way out of this MAGA mess is through it I guess. Time will prove me right. Of this I am both sure - and sad.
I keep seeing people holding Trump and his cabinet picks to no moral standard whatsoever while holding regular citizens to impossible moral standards. If you’re not calling out your preferred leaders for hateful speech and immoral behavior, then you should probably stop policing regular folks in The Preamble comment section.
For the record, I do not condone name calling from anyone. Including Trump, but I’m not in contact with him and doubt he’d care if I was upset by his behavior. I didn’t vote for him because he’s a perfect example of manners and behavior. I voted for him despite that. The reason I made a comment about name calling is because I don’t see the point in calling his wife a “grifter” or anything. She’s not him and shouldn’t be the target of anyone’s ire. Neither should the voters. We are not responsible for any elected officials behavior past, present or future. We may vote for them based on who we think will do a better job for the office. Clearly more voters felt he would, in spite of his many imperfections.. and to be fair, the other candidates had a few themselves. I don’t go for “false equivalency” arguments because wrong is wrong. I feel this group has higher standards than Trump and that name calling doesn’t get us anywhere. I really don’t want to argue about Trump any further. I voted for him for many reasons.. not one issue, not two.. but many reasons. It was my choice and I stand by it. Whether or not he will deliver remains to be seen. But can we just accept that there are different views on this thread? Trump voters are just as welcome (and pay the same) to be here as Trump haters.
Yikes. As Sharon has said many times- we cannot work for each other’s mutual destruction.
No but we can hope that voters get exactly what they voted for. They just didn’t understand or chose to ignore inflation that follows the tariffs and the high unemployment that’s follows mass deportations. Mutual destruction? No. Natural consequences? Yes, please.
I’m not even sure how to respond. I find your comments actually terrifying that you wish such harm on your fellow Americans.
The terrifying thing is nothing short of this person doing the things he says he’s going to do over the next four years. That’s the terrifying thing. Not me 😂
And you are the president of a non-profit? Doesn’t seem like the two would be congruent 💁🏼♀️
That’s a little dramatic don’t you think? People cast votes. Almost half voted for a guy that openly supports a bunch of crazy stuff imo including massive tariffs and mass deportations that both lead to high inflation and unemployment. Truth or lie? Truth. He won based on those promises. Okay. So then why oh why is my wanting to see his voters feel exactly when they voted for a bad thing?
Do you claim you know what everyone voted for, there are a lot of issues and no one gets everything they want. You seem to be projecting your dislike of Trump onto those who voted for him. Many of his policies will benefit our nation as a whole.. I get you are upset but why not wait and see what really happens and how it impacts our country instead of wishing for a bad outcome for fellow Americans.
Call me crazy for thinking that a felon who has assaulted women, taken away womens' rights, cooked his financial books, took high security documents from the white house and lied about it, refused to concede his election loss, incited an insurrection, and regularly punches down, has a worthy character to be president of this nation. As an aside, since when did a PRESIDENT mock and ridicule a state governor in the middle of a natural disaster? President Biden (and every president I can remember), visited, provided aid, and provided support to ANY state experiencing a tragedy, be it a red state or a blue state. Trump works to drive wedges, divide people, and has done away with what used to be the UNITED states.
And in spite of all this, Trump is still POTUS. The American people looked at four years of Trump and four years of Biden and made their decision. How terrible of a platform the Democrat Party clearly had to lose to the Donald Trump you describe?
While Trump can be divisive, Biden and the media contributed so much to the division we have today. The hate people have for Trump has blinded them to reality.
The love of Trump also seems to have a blinding effect. We all need to keep our eyes open and be willing to critique and be honest about our preferred leaders.
I agree Jessica.
Please tell the people here is WNC all that the former admin did for them!
So last try for me and then I need to go back to work 😂 Candidate T lays out a bunch of diff things that he says will MAGA. Okay. Yes. I’m going to assume people who voted for him liked what he said. Is that a crazy assumption? Don’t we tend to vote for people we agree with? I can’t imagine voting for someone i don’t agree with? So if that’s true, then what they voted for was a person who promised tariffs that have never not led to higher inflation. Never. Tariffs are inflationary. And mass deportations (now he may back down from this - who knows with this guy) lead to unemployment. Bush and Obama did the same thing back in the day but in certain counties only and then economists went back and looked at what happened over time. What happened was that small businesses lost an important part of their labor pool and had to either contract or close. Not good. We are already a nation very short on labor.
So I assume that T’s voters agree with T’s actions and policies and those policies lead to inflation and unemployment. Don’t shoot the messenger. My hope is that his voters now actually get what they voted for.
I agree with you 100% Jeanne. We just allowed a CONVICTED criminal, an adjudicated sexual abuser of WOMEN to the presidency. No amount of sane-washing this man OR his cabinet picks (save Marco Rubio) will change those facts!. Next they will be arguing that the salute Elon gave was a misunderstanding by us.
Oh my goodness you said this so well (I agree on Rubio btw - he’s a little island of sanity in a sea of bad sailing 😂)
The difference is that we believe his policies will have positive effects.. have a nice day.
Ahhhh - and therein lies the problem. Despite facts and data, you have “beliefs”. And the only way to shake those beliefs out of your head is to show you that they are not grounded in reality. And the only way to show you that they are not grounded in reality is for you to actually live through the truth that’s about to hit you over the next four years. Good luck.
Wow! You underestimate me and the other millions who voted for Trump. I do my homework.. ran a company for many years, I’m not naive. I won’t go into the details of how the Biden Administration failed because - what’s the point? The voters have spoken. I’m truly sorry that this election was so upsetting to you, but you may be pleasantly surprised, if you are willing look beyond your anti-Trump bias. I’m gonna leave it at that.
If you did your homework then nothing I said is a surprise. Right? You know all about tariffs and their impacts. You know about mass deportations and how they’re bad for small businesses. Then you won’t be surprised. You’re prepared.
What if, Trump was simply the better option between the two candidates? I am so thankful right now that Trump won. He has accomplished more this week than has been in the past months, no exaggeration!!
He’s a master of news and image. It looks like he’s done so much. Look deeper. And keep looking.
I assure you I look deep. He and Vance are front and center and I’m here for it all. Will I agree with everything? Surely not. However, they are ready to get things moving in the right direction. And, just like a ship being turned, it won’t happen overnight. But from what we’ve seen out of the gate, we are off to a good start. Just as I have for ALL our previous administrations, I will pray for all leading our country that they will use discernment and God’s will to be done.
And the hateful name calling isn’t a good look either… and two wrongs don’t make it right. Seems there are a lot of Trump haters here and projecting their anger on his family and his voters.
My mouth is hanging open. Literally. Donald Trump has called more people names than I am allowed room here to list. I am honestly flummoxed that you would criticize anyone for "hateful name calling" when Trump leads the way. You are mind boggling that you cannot see what is right in front of you.
For the record, I do not condone name calling from anyone. Including Trump, but I’m not in contact with him and doubt he’d care if I was upset by his behavior. I didn’t vote for him because he’s a perfect example of manners and behavior. I voted for him despite that. The reason I made a comment about name calling is because I don’t see the point in calling his wife a “grifter” or anything. She’s not him and shouldn’t be the target of anyone’s ire. Neither should the voters. We are not responsible for any elected officials behavior past, present or future. We may vote for them based on who we think will do a better job for the office. Clearly more voters felt he would, in spite of his many imperfections.. and to be fair, the other candidates had a few themselves. I don’t go for “false equivalency” arguments because wrong is wrong. I feel this group has higher standards than Trump and that name calling doesn’t get us anywhere. I really don’t want to argue about Trump any further. I voted for him for many reasons.. not one issue, not two.. but many reasons. It was my choice and I stand by it. Whether or not he will deliver remains to be seen. But can we just accept that there are different views on this thread? Trump voters are just as welcome (and pay the same) to be here as Trump haters.
So to be clear: you’re holding me to a higher standard than our President? Why? Name calling is okay by our leader, the face of our nation because…you’re “not in contact with him”?
I don’t think so. Consider this: Presidents are role models. Presidents have the power to shape the culture of a country. They are supposed to set the standard, not lower the bar. Presidents have great power, and that requires - no, demands - a higher standard of ethical conduct than little old me calling Melania “a grifter” (after selling meme coin$, bibles and probably Baron next).
Freedom belongs to all of us and I feel grateful for two things: the freedom to vote in free and fair elections and the freedom of speech that allows me to speak out when I see grift and graft and trouble ahead 🇺🇸🇺🇸
We can only control our own behavior. I choose not to call names or bully… I can’t control what you or anyone else - including the president says or does. I can only control myself. We are both free to vote as we wish, say what we wish and think what we wish… I don’t hold anyone to a lower or higher standard than anyone else.. that’s how I live my life. The role model argument is old… no one is obligated to be a role model if they choose not to. Again, their life, their choice. The people have voted and I’m genuinely sorry for anyone who is upset that Trump won… but he did - and that says a lot about the other side. Food for thought.
Nooooooo - you’ve given up on holding the person who holds the highest office in the land to a standard of action and speech that’s better than a New York street bully??? This makes me so sad but it explains things. I haven’t. I believe that power can be used for good. I haven’t given up on that.
Then maybe consider giving him a chance to do good. I don’t give up on anyone.. we are all created by God and we all have potential for good and evil. I think we all have good inside.. I am ready to call this a draw. We aren’t here to change each others mind or judge each other. I wish you well.
Really? All those words I typed out with my fat little fingers and this is where we’ve landed 😂😂😂?
I don’t suffer from TDS (fun fact: he named it that btw because he likes his name on everything 😉). But I’l tell you what I do suffer from - i suffer from loving my neighbor. I suffer from Matthew 25:37. I suffer from wanting to see the least powerful and most persecuted be given helping hands and open hearts. I suffer from believing that right words fuel right thoughts and right deeds and this is why the words that Presidents use really do matter.
This is also why I believe our President must reveal himself to his followers to be the true grifter that he (and Melania) really are which will come with all sorts of hardship for all of us. But the only way out of this MAGA mess is through it I guess. Time will prove me right. Of this I am both sure - and sad.
Louder please!!
I keep seeing people holding Trump and his cabinet picks to no moral standard whatsoever while holding regular citizens to impossible moral standards. If you’re not calling out your preferred leaders for hateful speech and immoral behavior, then you should probably stop policing regular folks in The Preamble comment section.
Thank you!!! 🎯🎯🎯
For the record, I do not condone name calling from anyone. Including Trump, but I’m not in contact with him and doubt he’d care if I was upset by his behavior. I didn’t vote for him because he’s a perfect example of manners and behavior. I voted for him despite that. The reason I made a comment about name calling is because I don’t see the point in calling his wife a “grifter” or anything. She’s not him and shouldn’t be the target of anyone’s ire. Neither should the voters. We are not responsible for any elected officials behavior past, present or future. We may vote for them based on who we think will do a better job for the office. Clearly more voters felt he would, in spite of his many imperfections.. and to be fair, the other candidates had a few themselves. I don’t go for “false equivalency” arguments because wrong is wrong. I feel this group has higher standards than Trump and that name calling doesn’t get us anywhere. I really don’t want to argue about Trump any further. I voted for him for many reasons.. not one issue, not two.. but many reasons. It was my choice and I stand by it. Whether or not he will deliver remains to be seen. But can we just accept that there are different views on this thread? Trump voters are just as welcome (and pay the same) to be here as Trump haters.
It’s gonna be a long four years in here!!😂
Extremely well said. Couldn’t agree more.