Actually, Leigh did not call you a bozo. She referred to right wing claims as тАЬbozo claims.тАЭ In other words, the claims are ridiculous. Those making them, however, are quite serious and believe the misinformation theyтАЩve been given. There is a distinction :-)
The thing that discourages me the most about both of your responses is the blanket statements regarding the right wing, their claims, and "misinformation". This is a complete stereotyping and disregard of an entire group of people. The lack of open-mindedness to another side's perspective is incredibly discouraging to me. This is why our country is so divided. People don't even start from a position of assuming that most people on the other side are good people with sound minds. They just lump them together and throw them out. When I said the right (which, yes, is the side I identify with) has been censored for 4 years, there was no "curiousity", sympathy, camaraderie (now that your side is experiencing it, too), or benefit of the doubt from either of you. You assume that people were always censored for good reason - until now, when people you follow are being censored, too. Now that your side is experiencing it, we should be able to agree: censorship is noy good. Instead, incredulously, we're just being more divided.
I don't think you realize how much you actually get it. You are correct: the right (yes this is is a blanket statement - as a large, heterogeneous group) has been censored for the past 4 years. The whole group has been lumped together and largely disregarded by the opposite side. This is why Trump won such a resounding victory. We are tired of being silenced, talked down to, and having our ideas ignored.
IтАЩm sorry that I canтАЩt take seriously a statement calling the 1.5% victory margin resounding. ThatтАЩs just pure math. WaPo succinctly summed it up today. (Sorry, fat fingers, posted it before quoting the stats) тАЬSuch claims (landslide win) are not supported by the election results, which show a starkly divided electorate and a historically slim win by Trump. His margin of victory over Vice President Kamala Harris in the national popular vote тАФ 1.5 percentage points тАФ is the smallest of any president who secured a popular-vote win since Richard M. Nixon in 1968.тАЭ
And that applies to every one of the above responses to me from various people. This disdain and condescension from one side to the other is so discouraging.
Could you help me understand why instead of explaining why 1.5% to you are resounding you prefer to try and put a guilt trip on me? I donтАЩt operate in emotions and wishful thinking. To me 1.5% is of course a victory but gosh itтАЩs pretty slim. I am genuinely curious what makes you think otherwise. And no I donтАЩt feel disdain. I just genuinely donтАЩt understand your math.
DoesnтАЩt matter the actual math to make it resounding. His win was a success story and historic.
As Emily stated- censorship and even deplatforming- has happened across accounts that have been deemed тАЬright wingedтАЭ for the last several years. This is nothing new and many of us have been just as outraged for years. Censorship is never good- no matter which side of the aisle you are on.
The right has been dealing with this censorship for the past 4 years. Welcome.
You sound lovely. Thanks for calling me a bozo.
Actually, Leigh did not call you a bozo. She referred to right wing claims as тАЬbozo claims.тАЭ In other words, the claims are ridiculous. Those making them, however, are quite serious and believe the misinformation theyтАЩve been given. There is a distinction :-)
The thing that discourages me the most about both of your responses is the blanket statements regarding the right wing, their claims, and "misinformation". This is a complete stereotyping and disregard of an entire group of people. The lack of open-mindedness to another side's perspective is incredibly discouraging to me. This is why our country is so divided. People don't even start from a position of assuming that most people on the other side are good people with sound minds. They just lump them together and throw them out. When I said the right (which, yes, is the side I identify with) has been censored for 4 years, there was no "curiousity", sympathy, camaraderie (now that your side is experiencing it, too), or benefit of the doubt from either of you. You assume that people were always censored for good reason - until now, when people you follow are being censored, too. Now that your side is experiencing it, we should be able to agree: censorship is noy good. Instead, incredulously, we're just being more divided.
If тАШthe right has been censored for yearsтАЩ is not a blanket statement, I donтАЩt know what is.
I don't think you realize how much you actually get it. You are correct: the right (yes this is is a blanket statement - as a large, heterogeneous group) has been censored for the past 4 years. The whole group has been lumped together and largely disregarded by the opposite side. This is why Trump won such a resounding victory. We are tired of being silenced, talked down to, and having our ideas ignored.
IтАЩm sorry that I canтАЩt take seriously a statement calling the 1.5% victory margin resounding. ThatтАЩs just pure math. WaPo succinctly summed it up today. (Sorry, fat fingers, posted it before quoting the stats) тАЬSuch claims (landslide win) are not supported by the election results, which show a starkly divided electorate and a historically slim win by Trump. His margin of victory over Vice President Kamala Harris in the national popular vote тАФ 1.5 percentage points тАФ is the smallest of any president who secured a popular-vote win since Richard M. Nixon in 1968.тАЭ
Ultimately it doesnтАЩt matter. Nine years of this circus have been draining. Good luck to us all, no matter how divided we are. We all will need it.
Your disdain and condescension toward me are palpable.
And that applies to every one of the above responses to me from various people. This disdain and condescension from one side to the other is so discouraging.
Could you help me understand why instead of explaining why 1.5% to you are resounding you prefer to try and put a guilt trip on me? I donтАЩt operate in emotions and wishful thinking. To me 1.5% is of course a victory but gosh itтАЩs pretty slim. I am genuinely curious what makes you think otherwise. And no I donтАЩt feel disdain. I just genuinely donтАЩt understand your math.
DoesnтАЩt matter the actual math to make it resounding. His win was a success story and historic.
As Emily stated- censorship and even deplatforming- has happened across accounts that have been deemed тАЬright wingedтАЭ for the last several years. This is nothing new and many of us have been just as outraged for years. Censorship is never good- no matter which side of the aisle you are on.
Well said Emily. It is baffling to me that this is creating more of a divide when it has been happening for years. Thank you for speaking the truth.