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It’s really hard for me to understand how anyone “changes” their views on Trump to be positive ones … especially as he gets worse and worse and his behaviors become even more egregious. This kind of 180° turn from being vocally anti-Trump to pro-Trump just seems like a calculated move to advance a political career rather than a stand on principle. While not at all surprising in today’s world, it’s disappointing.

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Agreed, Emily. It would be one thing if we learned new information that revealed something positive that was previously unknown, for example. However, in my assessment, Trump and his views have not changed from when Vance first called him "a moral disaster", or "a total fraud". We have only gained further evidence of his fraudulent practices as both a businessman and a politician. So then, what are we to make of people who previously decried these traits suddenly embracing him? I, personally, take that to mean they have decided the ends justify the means, and that they can tolerate what they previously denounced, in the name of their personal ambitions.

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I feel every bit of this in my soul. This is why the shift in views does not sit well with me.

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Exactly!

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I’ll tell you why she changed: money. And that’s not just a thing for the right. The left does it too. The Vance family can monetize all

of this. But I am just so uninterested in her or her inner workings while the world is burning up around us. Grifters are boring AF. Let’s move to bigger topics please oh please.

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I think someone changing their minds shows someone is taking in new information and forming different opinions. I believe we should always re-evaluate our political views. It’s admirable to me when someone changes their mind- regardless if they are changing their mind on something I agree or disagree with.

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I fully agree that changing minds about policies and opinions is a welcome and even admirable thing. But changing your mind about the Jan 6th events and election integrity? That, to me, is very different. Nothing changed about the facts of those situations. Recognizing that they were abhorrent when they occurred, then changing rhetoric in order to align with the instigators, just seems hypocritical and politically expedient.

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Exactly. Facts didn't change, but the party in power did, and with it went her allegiance.

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Exactly this. Changing views / opinions when new information is given is certainly admirable. But not just changing for political expediency. That’s 100% hypocrisy.

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Ashley- thank you for sharing your perspective. I don’t always agree but you are respectful and share valuable insights.

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Right back at you! I know it can't be easy to be among the minority of opinions in the comments section, but I really appreciate the insight you bring.

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I agree that taking in new information can help shape or reshape our views and opinions. We should be allowed to evolve and grow and change--our beliefs don't have to be static, and they shouldn't be. But as Ashley is saying in her reply, it feels suspicious when a candidate quickly changes their mind to align their views with their party or another candidate in a way that is politically advantageous for them.

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I think that is a fair point (by you and Ashley).

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Reading this actually made some of it make a little more sense. I have a cousin who was constantly shifting personalities with each new romantic partner. He would go from being a vegan to wanting to become a therapist to becoming a geologist. He would throw himself whole heartedly into these identities and had strong convictions in each. I think Vance is like that too. Where ever he currently lands is where he feels is the right place to be even if that contradicts where he was before. It also means that he might move again.

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I don’t thinks he changed her views. I think she and JD both care about their ambition more than anything. They’re sellouts.

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Yes that’s exactly what I’m saying. “Changes” in quotes because it’s all just political game playing to gain power and career advancement. It’s despicable. Or they’re lying to themselves and actually do believe what they’re saying. Idk which is worse honestly.

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She seems to be the Aaron Burr of the modern world. She’s going to “see which way the wind will blow” and do what she needs to do or purport to believe to further her career or her husband’s career.

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I think this is an interesting example of a life built on ambition as the driving force instead of a bedrock set of values. This is one of the flaws in our system (any system of government, really), it isn't necessarily those most deeply committed to something who rise to the top, but those with the most drive and ambition.

This is why I will always have more respect for those out there on the ground, working for their passions and values, whether large or small.

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I like how you stated this. As I read I kept thinking how does someone go from one extreme to the other? But I agree, it comes down to values.

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This is a really great take. I could not agree more.

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If I've learned anything from the Trump era, it's that a shocking number of people will jettison their principles for power, without hesitation.

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I agree. I have sat and mulled this over and I do admire anyone who can take a stand and/or change views or form new opinions when presented with different viewpoints or information. I think that shows growth and maturity. However, in this instance, it just seems that the shifts in her positions coincide a little too neatly with her husband's burgeoning position of power and that just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I don't feel it is about principles here at all. And anyone who chooses power over principles really turn me off.

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Right. I admire the Republicans who have stood up to Trump over the years, like Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, and Mike Pence. But these more recent bandwagon-jumpers disgust me. Craven power grabbers, one and all.

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Exactly.

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This is really hard to read. They BOTH could have made this country better but instead have joined the hate and chaos.

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Exactly Courtney. 🎯

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I am late to this article… but fully and totally agree. It reeks of trying to impress the parents and the all mighty dollars.

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“Usha told friends that Trump’s role in the insurrection was “deeply disturbing." But when JD began doing interviews as a potential running mate to Trump, his wife was by his side.”

I’ve been thinking a lot about my personal “red lines” in this environment - and what I can do with my individual privilege to combat authoritarianism and fascism (as an upper middle class white person with a good corporate job). For example, if the SAVE act moves forward, I will strike at work, even if it costs me my job. I really wonder what Usha’s red lines are.

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It appears Usha has no red lines.

She has capitulated & fallen in line with a party that seeks to diminish women in subservient roles to men (husbands). A party that cares not for the suffering or struggle of average Americans - but instead seeks to uphold a power structure that causes more pain & struggle for those who are lower in our “American caste system.”

At best - it’s profoundly sad.

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Unbridled ambition is not gendered. She and Melania Trump are cut from the sane mold. Neither have allegience to anyone but themselves and their desires.

No guiding ethical morals.

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"No guiding ethical morals" is quite the judgment. I am willing to bet that if this article had been written so that you had no idea who she was married to, this would not have been your comment.

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I agree the wording here is strong, and probably harsher than reality. I choose to be curious about Usha rather than judge her (I give her far more grace than Republicans gave Michelle Obama).

However, I don’t believe we can analyze her recent choices in a vacuum absent of her husband. In fact, the policies of Project 2025 actively seek to diminish women’s voices and elevate those of their husbands. So, I have little patience for the idea that she deserves to be judged independently of her husband - the world her husband is building (and that she by default endorses) is not one where wives have intellectual autonomy.

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Agree Amy. I didn’t get anything from this article that would have me question Usha’s morals.

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I find this surprising. How are she and Melania the same? I also think that this article is showing how devoted Usha is to her husband and put her desires on hold for his.

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Really interesting, thank you. Have you done a piece on Thiel? He seems an influential figure in more ways than one, yet doesn’t get the spotlight often. Would LOVE your take on him. 🩷

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Check out the book Burn Book by Kara Swisher.

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I always appreciate your brilliant research and skilled writing. It is an interesting piece. However, on the day my newspaper headline reads "U.S. sides with Russia on UN vote on Ukraine", I can hardly concentrate on this. It is hard to understand how intelligent people can look at what is happening and still support it. Did Usha really change her mind about January 6 and other issues or is she blinded by the spotlight like so many others?

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She seems absolutely wonderful. I'm also not sure why spouses need to fully align politically. I'm a Midwest Republican and my husband is a DC Democrat. We have no problem discussing politics, and we regularly challenge each other's way of thinking. It makes us better people. At the end of the day, we love and respect each other dearly, and to us that's all that matters.

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This is so dependent on the people in the relationship. I don't really see it as aligning politically as much as aligning with values. My husband and I don't always agree on the details but we don't disagree on values. And we don't disagree on what we want out of life. I have seen relationships where I 100% know I would not make it because of the expectations of the people in them.

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I agree. And if this were a traditional conservative president, I'd say it's possible to find common ground, mutual respect, and reasonable solutions to conflict. But it's not. He's an extremist and has no intention of building bridges with anyone who thinks differently than him. So for me, a vote for trump was a vote to end working together. Voters knew he was an extremist and chose it. I have close family members who are trump supporters and our relationship feels the strain because I no longer feel safe with them. You can't love me at a micro level and then support a reality that harms me at a macro level.

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I'm sorry you feel that way. Truly. I'm also grateful for Democrats, like my husband, who don't reduce people to how they vote.

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When you support extremism, you show your character. I don't reduce people to how they vote, I simply would never align with someone who's character and values supported extremism. Especially our current extremist in office who has proven to be particularly cruel and destructive.

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We shouldn’t reduce people to their vote. AND. Votes have consequences. And we have to take responsibility for whatever consequences intended or unintended our choices have.

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Yes, and the consequence is i feel less safe with them so there is a strain on the relationship.

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I understand where you're coming from. I am middle aged and my parents have always been Christian and republican. Christian ideals first, or so I thought. I remember them freaking out about Bill Clinton's affair. How did they go from that to voting TWICE for a convicted rapist who is a total jerk to anyone who doesn't fall in line? It's just so difficult for me to understand. It has strained our relationship. They have gay children, trans grandchildren, children who are on psychiatric meds. I guess they would be okay with all of them being thrown into camps now (as RFK has proposed)? I guess they don't really care about what happens to their own family, or maybe they think that all of that is "just talk" and won't come to fruition. Either way, it sucks.

I don't understand the apparent total allegiance they have to this party that has been taken over by extremists. Fox news has altered my dad's personality. We never used to discuss politics, now we fight about it. I barely see or speak to them anymore because of it. I don't get how two people could raise a bunch of free thinkers who have no party allegiance (like me), and end up like this.

My only answer, and the thing that keeps this relationship from dissolving completely, is believing that they are victims of propaganda. It's just sad.

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I'm not sure I'm following your point? Is the best course of action to cut ties with those in our lives who vote differently?

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I wonder the same thing. It feels like many here seem to believe that if we voted for Trump, we should be exiled from society. Should we be fired from our jobs if our boss voted differently? Should our families and friends who voted differently cut all ties with us? Should we be banned here or maybe on all of social media in general? What is it that you want?

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Not at all. I believe there’s a middle ground between reducing people to a vote (cutting ties) and healthy accountability and communal awareness.

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I love that Katie. My husband is a staunch Republican and I’m more moderate. We don’t agree on several large items and just don’t discuss. Like you, we love and respect each other and that is what matters the most.

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Love hearing that Katie! Usha has been married to JD for over a decade (I think?) and together for longer. She was not the one voted into office, and I do not think she deserves to have people’s opinions of her husband tacked onto her by default. I don’t know what her political feelings truly are, and I’m sure she has plenty of thoughts, but she clearly loves her family and has that as her top priority and I can’t fault her, or make and judgements on her for that.

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Question out of honest curiosity. What does Midwest Republican mean to you?

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I'm a traditional conservative, raised in a small town in Indiana. I've lived in metro DC for 10 years now. My husband has lived in DC his entire life. My intention was just to draw contrast between how our upbringings have shaped our deeply held political beliefs, yet we're still able to have respectful, productive conversations.

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I really applaud your ability to do this.

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I think these biographical deep dives are my favorite! It’s so fascinating learning about how people got to where they are and the journey.

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I always enjoy your profiles. This one shows that Usha Vance is an accomplished woman in her own right, as well as a complex individual navigating personal beliefs, professional ambitions, and public responsibilities (along with raising a family). And she's only 39. It will be interesting to see what the future holds for her and the Vance family.

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I know a lot of folks who overlapped with them at Yale law, and they all believe they’re just being opportunist. I’m not sure which is worse- being a true believer or just pretending to be one to get to the top.

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Good for her! She woke up and has been "red-pilled", like millions of American voters who are sick of the insane policies and propaganda of the left. How many times have I heard "I didn't leave the democrat party, the party left me." The American public was fed so many lies: From Covid came from a wet market, two weeks to stop the spread, to BLM is righteious and Jan. 6th is diabolical, to Biden is "more fit than ever" to be president, men can become women, open borders are a good thing. and the list goes on. The left is so busy catering to small slices of the electorate that it is no wonder why common sense is making a comeback.

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Respectfully, much of what you listed here are not lies. The stances regarding Covid were based on the knowledge we had at that time - obviously those opinions and stances changed as we learned more about the disease. I'm not sure who characterized BLM as "righteous," but I think it's certainly not a bad thing to acknowledge the country's racist history in regards to Black people - which was the point of the movement. And January 6th was an actual attack on the Capitol to stop a free and fair election; I suppose "diabolical" could be debated, but it was certainly not a good thing.

All that said, I will agree with you that the extreme left caters to small slices of the electorate, and that has been problematic for elections on a whole. Still, I don't see how it's a bad thing to defend the rights of small groups in America - that's kind of what our whole constitution is built on.

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I highly suggest learning a bit about transgender people. It is not as so simple as "men becoming women" it is extremely complex and nuanced within each individual person. Most go through extreme mental turmoil before being brave enough to live their lives as who they truly are. Why does such a small % of our population get such a high percentage of hate? Transgender people are not the bad person coming after you. They just want to exist.

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THIS. I know and love several transgender people and I do NOT understand why living one's truth in such a way is under attack. It's heartbreaking. If you want to believe there's a big mystical daddy in the sky who is going to come and save us some day, what's wrong with someone believing they are a man even though they were born with female genitalia? WHO CARES HOW THEY CHOOSE TO LIVE. We all deserve to be happy.

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You realize Trump was in charge when COVID-19 spread, right?

Comparing BLM and Jan 6th insurrectionists? Ok...

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Do you not recall that the trump administration was in power for the first full year of COVID-19 and sent that postcard about two weeks to stop the spread? And that he got rid of the pandemic response plans that Obama put in place? Also, do you know what a novel virus means , and how science works?

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My thoughts exactly!! A brilliant diverse woman can learn and grow and see what she didn’t see before.

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I love your comments, Katy. You are bold and confident and it is appreciated!

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So, honestly, I am not surprised at her shift. The sentence that stood out to me was about their road trip listening about the Clintons. She is following the recipe of Hilary Clinton. She knows that her power lies with JD’s, she knows that she will make her mark through JD. When it comes to politics power is the main motivation. I know that sounds cynical but we have got to stop assuming

there is any real morality behind any power couple. I do think they have a love and respect for one another, but they are both super ambitious. They will take any avenue to the top. So, I guess I don’t get why it’s so surprising.

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That is an interesting perspective. Hadn’t thought of it that way.

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Thanks for this insight into Usha Vance. It seems that ambition for her is above anything else.

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Another instance where the woman (although I absolutely don’t agree with her politics) appears to be more capable than the man….and he is the one elected….

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EXACTLY.

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