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I understand this article is meant to be critical of Trump and as always, I appreciate that, but the language about the protest is deeply unfair to the people of Los Angeles, carrying water for Trump with inaccurate framing.

For example, even this first line: "he wasn't just responding to violent protests over immigration raids" suggests that the protests are inherently violent (they are overwhelmingly peaceful) and that Trump's actions are a "response" rather than instigation.

Later, there's this: "What began as peaceful demonstrations quickly turned violent, with windows shattered, self-driving cars set ablaze, and officers pelted with rocks and electric scooters. Police responded with flash-bangs and rubber bullets, and Los Angeles declared an 'unlawful assembly.'" The word "turned" here is doing a lot of heavy lifting, failing to reflect the timeline, scope, and scale of the conflict, as well as the obviously disproportionate force at play.

Let's start with "self-driving cars set ablaze." The first fires were the result of tear gas cannisters thrown by law enforcement against protesters on the first day when they were trying to block ICE agents from taking their neighbors at a Home Depot. The cannisters are very hot, so brush in the road divider caught on fire. The next day, when more people peaceably assembled, police began dispensing tear gas again (a chemical weapon which is banned for use in war by the Geneva Protocols), along with flashbangs, less-lethal projectiles, and aggressive physical force. THAT is when people started setting self-driving cars on fire, and even then the photo included here is pretty much the extent of it. Just because Fox News plays the same images over and over doesn't mean it was widespread. The point isn't that setting cars on fire is okay, the point is that law enforcement was responsible for the escalation in use of force, not the protesters.

Next, "officers pelted with rocks and electric scooters." Again, press embedded on the ground in LA report that law enforcement was deploying their weapons on unarmed civilians who at most were yelling curses at them. In many cases, protesters were throwing BACK projectiles that LEOs had launched at THEM. With regard to the scooters, they were initially and mostly used as barricades to block ICE vehicles, and the episodes of them being thrown were rare. Again, not okay, but these are RARE violent actions that are nearly always in response to law enforcement escalation.

The vast majority of gatherings are peaceful, while there are many instances of LEOs and now military acting aggressively and violently against civilians without provocation. For example, there is the Australian reporter who was intentionally shot with a rubber bullet by a cop. Another woman was just walking, trying to get to her apartment, and the officer blocking the road shot her with a rubber bullet at point-blank range. When other civilians tried to give her first aid, the officer threatened to shoot them too. This one wasn't even an active protest, just a person trying to get home!

Finally, "The central question isn't whether violent protesters deserve consequences — they do. By any measure, violence against federal agents is inexcusable, and law enforcement has every right to protect personnel and property." Based on the examples provided above, let me turn this around for a minute: "The central question isn't whether violent LEOs deserve consequences — they do. By any measure, violence against unarmed civilians is inexcusable, and people have every right to protect themselves and their neighbors." Now tell me truly, is the second statement untrue? Because the framing of the administration and this article is that law enforcement are the victims rather than the aggressors, which is exactly what allows Trump to dangerously escalate further.

Finally, I want to point out the massive power differential between LEOs/military and the protesters. Law enforcement and the military is armed (often with lethal power, and even the non-lethal power can do serious long-term injury), the people are not. Law enforcement has the power of the state and the threat of arrest and imprisonment behind them, while the people do not. When the people assemble and law enforcement responds violently, WHAT ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO??? Should they not defend themselves? Particularly knowing that the courts almost never rule in their favor? And if your answer is "they should disperse," then you believe that violence is an acceptable way to suppress free speech.

Anyway, I know this is long, but I need everyone here to pay close attention to journalists who are on the ground in LA, and compare that to the framing we're seeing in most major news outlets. Know the history of policing and domestic military deployments. And don't judge people who are facing down this kind of state violence in their communities.

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Much has been written and will no doubt be written, about the Constitutional issues regarding due process, free speech and domestic use of the military in Trump’s actions against immigrants. What I want to relay here is a message I don’t think is getting out at all, which is how detrimental it is for our country as a whole, to engage in the mass deportation of people whose only “crime” was to enter our country without documentation. And although I believe some Trump voters support the whitening of America, I believe a significant portion of them supported deportation of violent criminal immigrants, which is not at all what we’re seeing. And the reason for that is because Trump campaigned on stories of violent criminal hordes and invasions of lawless immigrants everywhere. But that was never true and so they must seek, hunt and round up every suspected non-citizen they can find to try to fulfill their mass deportation promises. If this continues and the immigrant population is decimated, here is what we will lose, completely aside from Constitutional and humanitarian issues:

-the $80-100 billion that undocumented immigrants contribute to federal, state and local coffers every year

-immigrants’ contributions to U.S. GDP, which Wall Street economists have said is one of the most significant drivers of growth over the last several years

-the benefits shown in the Trump Admin.’s own 10-yr study of refugees where refugees generated billions more dollars for the U.S. than than they cost us

-immigrants start small businesses at higher rates than native-born citizens and 99.9% of all businesses in the U.S. are small businesses, which make up 44% of our GDP

-immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than native-born citizens

-immigrants enlist in the military at higher rates than native-born citizens and immigrant veterans attain higher education, employment and income than native-born veterans

-studies of Census data going back generations shows that in the majority of immigrant families, the next generation is doing as well as or better than the corresponding generation of native-born citizens

-immigrants fill essential jobs in industries facing labor shortages like healthcare, construction and agriculture and are more likely than native-born citizens to move where the jobs are, relieving bottlenecks and improving resource allocation overall

-in a time of increasing numbers of older people and declining birth rates in the U.S. and other developed countries, immigrants, who skew younger as a whole, provide a vital infusion of able-bodied workers to maintain labor market growth

-massive increases, up to nearly $200 billion in taxpayer funds to continue and increase these heinous efforts against hard-working people whose only crime was to come here or remain here without documentation to make a better life for themselves and their families.

California has recently overtaken Japan as the fourth largest economy in the world. It has huge numbers of immigrants and lower murder rates than Alabama. It is far from an immigrant invasion hellscape because the truth is, most immigrants are a vital resource for the U.S. and we need to protect them. Trump’s efforts are tearing the country apart and will have ramifications for generations to come.

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