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Timothy Patrick's avatar

Thanks for this conversation. It’s the kind of framing I wish showed up more often in civic coverage, because I do think a lot of people direct their anger at the Supreme Court when the real culprit is upstream. The justices are capable of real boneheadedness and hypocrisy, but their ability, and sometimes their duty, to hand down conclusions we hate is usually rooted in bad law or the absence of law guiding their interpretation of the Constitution. If we don’t like where they land, the work is ours: clarify what we actually want the Constitution to say, and stop outsourcing that labor to nine unelected people.

That said, to say that at least they’re not as dysfunctional as Congress or the president is a pretty low bar. Yesterday’s episode of The Daily made that clear. Reporters at the NY Times got their hands on sixteen pages of private correspondence showing exactly how the shadow docket was born in 2016, during the five-day sprint over Obama’s Clean Power Plan. The memos don’t read like careful jurisprudence; instead it was more like Roberts bulldozing his colleagues because he felt personally played by the EPA after the mercury case. They were completely focused on what the Obama reform would cost industry, and unlike what you would expect from levelheaded Supreme Court justices, they completely ignored the cost of what a warming planet would be for all of us. Alito framed the routine regulation as an existential threat to the Court’s legitimacy, and Kagan merely flagged that what they were about to do was unprecedented, while nobody stopped to ask where it would lead.

A decade later, we know where it led: a docket that now hands the current president win after win on thin briefs and no reasoning, with political scientists pointing out that partisan voting is measurably stronger there than on the merits docket where accountability structure exists.

And it’s also worth remembering the other very valid reasons public trust is where it is. The immunity ruling essentially tells us a president can do almost anything without legal consequence as long as it can be dressed up as part of the job, which Sotomayor correctly pointed out could be read as cover for political assassinations. Regardless of how vague the Constitution could be read, surely that not an outcome we could live with, right? And not how you could imagine lawmakers intended the law to work…

There’s the ProPublica reporting on undisclosed gifts. And recusals that should have been no-brainers. There’s the Alito household flying flags associated with Christian nationalist and insurrectionist movements. There are the undercover recordings catching justices agreeing with extreme partisan framings they’d never commit to in public.

And none of this even touches the blatant hypocrisy that produced the current bench, where a brand new principle was invented to deny Obama a third pick across two terms and then cheerfully discarded to hand Trump a third pick in a single term.

Which brings me to term limits, because I think Isgur’s tradeoff argument is really important and interesting, but also underestimates the depth of the current problem. She’s right that candidates might eventually name their picks on the trail. But we already live in a world where the confirmation process is apocalyptic and bears almost no relationship to what voters expressed at the ballot box. A single vacancy can reshape American life for forty years. The case for term limits, paired with a larger bench, isn’t really about solving randomness. It’s about lowering the stakes of any one seat so that no single nomination feels like a civilizational hinge. More turnover and more total justices means each pick shifts the balance of the Court less, which would cool the confirmation wars rather than heat them. That seems like the goal we should have, even if the tradeoffs she names here are worth taking seriously on the way there.

Mary Louise's avatar

Very interesting interview. Thanks!

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